Israel Chamber Orchestra in Bayreuth - Germany - Peace for the Soul2024-03-28T14:45:56Zhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/forum/topics/israel-chamber-orchestra-in-ba?commentId=5143044%3AComment%3A111344&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree, Stephen.
Thanks for…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-30:5143044:Comment:1115322011-07-30T10:16:55.746ZBéatrice LATEUR LACROIXhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/LATEURLACROIX
<p>I agree, Stephen.</p>
<p>Thanks for your words of unity.</p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings.</p>
<p>I agree, Stephen.</p>
<p>Thanks for your words of unity.</p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings.</p> Thank you, dear Stephen.
Let…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1113452011-07-29T21:07:15.051ZIrit Hakim-Kellerhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/IritHakimKeller
<p>Thank you, dear Stephen.</p>
<p>Let us hope and do for better life.</p>
<p>May you have a happy weekend.</p>
<p>Thank you, dear Stephen.</p>
<p>Let us hope and do for better life.</p>
<p>May you have a happy weekend.</p> My dear Irit,
it is not for u…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1115092011-07-29T20:51:56.272ZStephen Quintohttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/StephenQuinto
<p>My dear Irit,</p>
<p>it is not for us to judge ....but, faced with whatever.... to choose a consequential path. Thus do we evolve ....on a sacred path and into the future only we create. 'The train doesn't stop here anymore' ....is an apt descriptor of ...the path.</p>
<p>My dear Irit,</p>
<p>it is not for us to judge ....but, faced with whatever.... to choose a consequential path. Thus do we evolve ....on a sacred path and into the future only we create. 'The train doesn't stop here anymore' ....is an apt descriptor of ...the path.</p> Stephen,
Your approach of cou…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1113442011-07-29T20:25:18.565ZIrit Hakim-Kellerhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/IritHakimKeller
Stephen,<br />
Your approach of course is a spiritual one, but alas, not everyone would have it.<br />
<br />
Jews who survived the Holocaust, divided into two main groups - those who are ready to move on with life, ready to return to Germany, even to live there.They are the ones who would take the spiritual way.. But, there are the others, of the second group -who wouldn't touch anything German, are not ready even to hear the language, and their lives continue to be protracted agony. I do not think they would…
Stephen,<br />
Your approach of course is a spiritual one, but alas, not everyone would have it.<br />
<br />
Jews who survived the Holocaust, divided into two main groups - those who are ready to move on with life, ready to return to Germany, even to live there.They are the ones who would take the spiritual way.. But, there are the others, of the second group -who wouldn't touch anything German, are not ready even to hear the language, and their lives continue to be protracted agony. I do not think they would take a suggestion of "evil WE have committed" , nor they would accept the Nazis as their family...or humane...<br />
To be honest - I must say I cannot judge them. They have been through hell - I do not think I have the right to offer them the spiritually way of thinking about their experience.<br />
<br />
Thank you for sharing your conception of life. Perhaps it would be more appr…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1110612011-07-29T19:39:35.577ZStephen Quintohttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/StephenQuinto
<p>Perhaps it would be more appropriate to take this opportunity ....by going deeper into the process of 'purification' ....and hence healing. There is no doubt we are one. ....are all brothers and sisters ....even with the animals and the plants our spirits are entwined. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>If we are truly a family ...the family of Man ....then we must delve deeper into the evils we have committed ....because we must get to the source, beyond the root, and exorcise it. And how do we do that? By…</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be more appropriate to take this opportunity ....by going deeper into the process of 'purification' ....and hence healing. There is no doubt we are one. ....are all brothers and sisters ....even with the animals and the plants our spirits are entwined. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>If we are truly a family ...the family of Man ....then we must delve deeper into the evils we have committed ....because we must get to the source, beyond the root, and exorcise it. And how do we do that? By taking this terrible trip and penetrating its mystery [and mastery, by extension] for that is where the source of it is....</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Then, once having arranged this profane to the extent that it 'fits' ....after all this truly is a 'one size fits all' procedure, then one can easily see in the reflection that this was our own profane issue too ....one can now really forgive oneself ....for it is once and for all finished. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Free '....free at last!' - </p>
<p> </p>
<p>May we take this loving kindness now and place it before the Great Spirit ....for we are better prepared to serve the divine purpose for which we are here. Ah, my children, that is ....Peace.</p> thank you, Beatrice.tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1115082011-07-29T18:38:10.792ZIrit Hakim-Kellerhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/IritHakimKeller
thank you, Beatrice.
thank you, Beatrice. Thanks you for proposing to c…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1110592011-07-29T17:55:22.253ZBéatrice LATEUR LACROIXhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/LATEURLACROIX
<p>Thanks you for proposing to change "forgive" by let's leave all this behind and make a new beginning ; let's heal the wound instead keeping it open and bleeding ; let's face forward instead stay in the past.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>With respect and gratitude for you, Irit.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings</p>
<p>Thanks you for proposing to change "forgive" by let's leave all this behind and make a new beginning ; let's heal the wound instead keeping it open and bleeding ; let's face forward instead stay in the past.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>With respect and gratitude for you, Irit.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings</p> Reading all the comments here…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-29:5143044:Comment:1116132011-07-29T13:59:31.968ZIrit Hakim-Kellerhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/IritHakimKeller
Reading all the comments here, I agree them all. Music is an instrument of healing, and any opportunity to heal a wound of any kind, is recommended.<br />
I cannot ignore the feelings of the ones who objected the Israeli orchestra playing Wagner, though. It is not only because Wagner had been Hitler's favourite but because Wagner had been Anti Semitic, well known as Jews hater. It gives the chills even thinking of it.<br />
But, time has come to make a change in the approach, to ...'forgive' is not the…
Reading all the comments here, I agree them all. Music is an instrument of healing, and any opportunity to heal a wound of any kind, is recommended.<br />
I cannot ignore the feelings of the ones who objected the Israeli orchestra playing Wagner, though. It is not only because Wagner had been Hitler's favourite but because Wagner had been Anti Semitic, well known as Jews hater. It gives the chills even thinking of it.<br />
But, time has come to make a change in the approach, to ...'forgive' is not the right word in this issue..the deeds where to horrible ...but to say: let's leave all this behind and make a new beginning ; let's heal the wound instead keeping it open and bleeding ; let's face forward instead stay in the past. I agree with your 3 posts, my…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-28:5143044:Comment:1107552011-07-28T08:54:09.754ZBéatrice LATEUR LACROIXhttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/LATEURLACROIX
<p>I agree with your 3 posts, my friends.</p>
<p>We all have to make news steps in understanding, forgivness, comprehsion and compassion.</p>
<p>I hope all of us prepare real Peace on Earth</p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>I agree with your 3 posts, my friends.</p>
<p>We all have to make news steps in understanding, forgivness, comprehsion and compassion.</p>
<p>I hope all of us prepare real Peace on Earth</p>
<p>Love and Peace for all Beings.</p>
<p> </p> One dream - soon to be realiz…tag:peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com,2011-07-27:5143044:Comment:1107462011-07-27T21:22:39.403ZStephen Quintohttps://peaceformeandtheworld.ning.com/profile/StephenQuinto
One dream - soon to be realized - is to play this music - esp from the Ring cycle - for the trees in our forest. Now that will give them something to talk about! In truth, some of this music is ....sublime. We know too well the breadth of 'noblesse' [as well as living tragedy] in this music. Creation never blessed one against another ....the pity is that man did.....
One dream - soon to be realized - is to play this music - esp from the Ring cycle - for the trees in our forest. Now that will give them something to talk about! In truth, some of this music is ....sublime. We know too well the breadth of 'noblesse' [as well as living tragedy] in this music. Creation never blessed one against another ....the pity is that man did.....